foreigner and his uaz patriot

fredwinia

After 8000 kilometres no problems. Car going faster now. I made a good choice. I do not understand that all russians do not drive an uaz patriot.

I drove alot of cars and i can tell you that there is nothing that beats this car. The car is cheap beautifull does all you want it to do. Uaz is comfortable and handling good for such a car.

Negative points i can think of. Why 2 tanks and shifting bit slow.

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Ср июл 29, 2009 15:51

Hello,

where are you from ?

I am from Austria and I am going to leave in Russia for a long long time and thats why I ordered a Patriot,
do not know how it is , but I will get it in 09 month...

regards martin

fredwinia

Hi martin i come from amsterdam the netherlands. And i also bought a patriot.

The uaz brand is not so popular among lots of russian people but i think for the wrong reasons.

I bought the car because i like the shape and it drove ok when i had a test drive. Depending on where you are go to Russia the roads can be very bad. So a jeep is a good choice.

The patriot is a simple car and can be fixed anywhere in Russia. the interior dashboard and some buttons are a bit cheapish but for the rest i did not find lot of negative things.

When new the car is kinda slow and it feels that it is geared to long but after a few thousand kilometres it all comes together and all is perfect. Not that it is fast but fast enough. Handling on asfalt roads is good too and much better then my old cherokke jeep or landrover.

The gearshifting though you have to do with some care. UBecause of the flywheel and drivechain it needs some time to settle down the revs and better to take some time to shift.

For the rest i really did not found any negative points.Uaz is very suitable for Russian roads.

lots of succes and i am living in Novosibirsk. Got the limited version by the way with aal the thingies on it. The radio sucks by the way best to buy a patriot without a radio and buy oner yourself. For the rest when lots of people ask me why i bought an uaz and not a japanese car i can only say: Real men know why.

Fred

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Ср июл 29, 2009 17:41

I will leave in St Petersburg and I ordered a limited diesel uaz as a company car (cheep and solid). Hope to get a good one, I mean without monday/friday defaults inside. About the radio - I will see and if it sucks for me too, I will change it
What are you doing in novosibirsk ? which kind of business?
I am in sales and have to drive by any weather conditions to diferent customers and cities in diferent regions of russia , so the domestic uaz was the best choice for me for the bad domestic roads... and to be honest : I've nevver been driving russian car longer than 30 minutes, only once a uaz hunter: friend of mine from Vienna is driving one for off road challenges and he is very happy with it...hard or unpossible to be broken and it runs and runs

and it is funy to be driven because of simple handling ..
I will get my car in the middle of september, I believe that the russians are able to build a good car with new technologies.
Why russians do not trust to the UAz - I do not know , may be they have a knowledge and expirience with it.
c u martin

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Ср июл 29, 2009 18:00

I will live ....

fredwinia

Hi martin,

i think russians do not like uaz because a lot think it is not cool to drive a russian car. i think it is bit like post comunistic syndrome.

Why the diesel?? Here it does not work because when it freezes minus 30 the diesel freezes in your tank.

What am i doing here? I went to Russia years ago for speed scating maraton contest. In Omsk. I liked my time in Russia and i went back every year mostly summers but also winters for hollidays.

I ended up in Novosibirsk because there were no airplanes flying back from Omsk to europe at that time and there was one flying directly from Novosibirsk to Germany. So i took the train and there at the dentist(my filling dropped out) i met my wife (3 years ago), she is dentist.

So we got married and we decided to stay here. She likes to live in /Russia and does not want to live in Europe. Ok with me at that time i sold my firm on the stockmarket to my partner and went to Russia. Sometimes i give lectures on Novosibirsk university about stockmarket stuff. Optionsd and futures.

For the rest now i drive my uaz a bit through Russia and enjoy life. So actually i do not work .Yesterdy some kind of bank asked me to set up trading thing in Amsterdam again but i decided to stay in Russia .

Russia is a nice country with strong plusses and minuses . i live in the middle of the forrest and that is ok with me.

regards,

Fred

fredwinia

Doing business in Russia seems difficult to me. wild capitalism and in other stage then Europe.
we passed prestige and money a bit.
In Russia it is very important what car you drive and prestige and so on.

Sometimes Russians like to show of their money and we do not do that anymore in Europe.

Considering cars the patriot is the car to have in Russia but Russian rather drive cars like lexus or absolutely useless cars lile porsche 911 or something just to look cool or just because they never were able to. For transport porsche 911 useless but as i told you being cool is very important. Russian cool that is. We in europe mostly prefer that people do not know you have money and so on.

Fred

fredwinia

What are you selling by the way?

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Ср июл 29, 2009 18:25

Why diesel ---I have my driving license since 94 and all my cars were diesel : the first car/jeep I got was a 88er land cruiser from toyota, next one was a old defender and the last one was defender too, all with diesel engine and around 120 horse power(only the toyota was with 90) , but after many years of driving diesel jeeps I know how and what to tune to become more power and better driving conditions ...
my first defender was able to work with sunflowers oil too, it
had the one tank system and i had 190 horse powers after chip tuning , airfilter and turbo settings and the possibility to work not only with diesel/soljarka. Rudolf Diesel made his developings on the diesel engine with sunflowersoil somewhere in the year 1890-1900
well the russian car will be my next tunning step and a complitely new challenge

About freezing of the diesel , yes it may be a problem ... without a preheater for the tank which is needed if you want to drive with saladoil

Well, how to say ...enjoy your easy going life in Russia and may be we will meet us one day...
I am in sales for a austrian company in Russia , we are etablishing sales office in St P and i am going to lead it, thats the reason why I am coming to Russia...

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Ср июл 29, 2009 18:27

we are subliers for plasticmanufactorer , our products are clolour- and additive masterbatches , which you add into the virgin raw material as colour and mechanical modyfication of the final plasticaplication...
take a look on www.gabriel-chemie.com if you can not imagine it

Alex[BY]

fredwinia писал(а):After 8000 kilometres no problems. Car going faster now. I made a good choice.

Congratulation

fredwinia писал(а): I do not understand that all russians do not drive an uaz patriot.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
http://chinamobil.ru/
It is joke

valek · Сообщение **valek** » Ср июл 29, 2009 22:48

опппааааааааа

кто переводить??????

CodeDaemon

valek писал(а):опппааааааааа кто переводить??????

translate.google.ru :P

Ep · Сообщение Ep » Ср июл 29, 2009 23:05

fredwinia писал(а):
Negative points i can think of. Why 2 tanks and shifting bit slow.

hola.
I think, having 2 tanks is very useful in some cases. I always have possibility to fill the fuel from the free side of a filling station. other cars have to wait their turn a bit longer:)

CodeDaemon

fredwinia писал(а): I do not understand that all russians do not drive an uaz patriot.

Yep! Many people in their minds, still live in USSR...
That's russian mentality.

I want to say from all of us, that we glad that you are here, and that you chose the Patriot.

Ep · Сообщение Ep » Ср июл 29, 2009 23:38

Xdream писал(а): my first defender was able to work with sunflowers oil too, it
had the one tank system and i had 190 horse powers after chip tuning , airfilter and turbo settings and the possibility to work not only with diesel/soljarka. Rudolf Diesel made his developings on the diesel engine with sunflowersoil somewhere in the year 1890-1900
well the russian car will be my next tunning step and a complitely new challenge

hola.
Es wird sehr interessant fuer mich mit Ihrer Meinung ueber Uaz-Patriot nach dem LR Defender kennen zu lernen :)
Dieselmotor ist wirklich einen Sparmotor, aber es wird mehr einfach mit Ersatzteile fuer ZMZ409-motor in kleinen Orten zu treffen. In Russland das heisst viel...

valek · Сообщение **valek** » Ср июл 29, 2009 23:45

ты спроси! берут у них китайские подделки? 8) так ради интереса

CodeDaemon

valek писал(а):ты спроси! берут у них китайские подделки? 8) так ради интереса

Это не у них. это у нас..
Они сдесь, в России живут.

valek · Сообщение **valek** » Чт июл 30, 2009 00:20

аааааааа..............эмигранты?

Taller · Сообщение **Taller** » Чт июл 30, 2009 00:29

тогда пусть русский учат,ато развели тут понимаешь дискусию блин а народу не понятно 8)

НегОро

Taller писал(а):тогда пусть русский учат,ато развели тут понимаешь дискусию блин а народу не понятно 8)

Чуть-чуть перевода

"After 8000 kilometres no problems. Car going faster now. I made a good choice. I do not understand that all russians do not drive an uaz patriot.

I drove alot of cars and i can tell you that there is nothing that beats this car. The car is cheap beautifull does all you want it to do. Uaz is comfortable and handling good for such a car.

Negative points i can think of. Why 2 tanks and shifting bit slow."
Проехал 8000 км, проблем нет. Сейчас авто едет быстрее. Я сделал хороший выбор. Не понимаю, почему все русские не ездят на Патриоте.
Я много на чем ездил, и уверяю вас: лучше ничего нет. Машина недорогая, красивая, и делает все, что тебе нужно.
Уаз комфортабелен и ведет себя неплохо для такого авто.
Вот что могу вспомнить из негатива: для чего два бака, и передачи переключаются несколько медленно.

От себя: человек (голландец) живет в Новосибирске уже три года. Женат на русской.

НегОро

Второго парня зовут Мартин, переезжает по работе в Питер из Австрии. Заказал себе дизельный для служебного пользования, в сентябре должен получить. Пишет, до этого водил старый Лендкрузер и старый Лендровер. Все дизель.

Taller · Сообщение **Taller** » Чт июл 30, 2009 00:42

я все прочитал и прекрасно понял,эт так сказать шутинг :D

НегОро

Ну, может, кому еще сгодится

CodeDaemon

valek писал(а):аааааааа..............эмигранты?

Засланцы =)

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 12:03

CodeDaemon писал(а):
fredwinia писал(а): I do not understand that all russians do not drive an uaz patriot.
Yep! Many people in their minds, still live in USSR...
That's russian mentality.

I want to say from all of us, that we glad that you are here, and that you chose the Patriot.

spassibo rebjata,
ja tak radujus sto u menja budet patriot...vy ne moshete predstavit ...
moi kolegi sdes v Awstrii smotrjat na menja kak na marsianec i ne werujut sto ja sakasal russkaja mashina ...

A ja gordejus potomu sto u menja budet nastojashaja russkaja mashina - swer

ja sebja sakasal diesel i ne mogu doshdatsja etogo momenta kogda budu polu4it klu4ei ...

moi russki ne samyi perfektnyi poetomu isvinite vse oshibki i padeshi ... ja ih tak i ne vyu4il... a skolko let u4il i u4il...

Ostrov · Сообщение **Ostrov** » Чт июл 30, 2009 12:17

Xdream, твой русский даже очень замечательный. Как переедешь окончательно, пиши , поедем на рыбалку. :)

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 12:29

Ostrov, spassibo, budu pissat, eto budet gdeto wvsentjabre...
nastojashaja rybalka ili nazionalnaja rybalka ?
filmy nedavno smotrel...:lol: ohota, rybalka, (E)banja..

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 12:33

@ Taller

vash russkii jasyk tak trudnii... vse eti padeshi i pravila i issklju4enija ...
oboldet kogda nado vyu4it vse eto ...

Ostrov · Сообщение **Ostrov** » Чт июл 30, 2009 12:36

Xdream писал(а):Ostrov, spassibo, budu pissat, eto budet gdeto wvsentjabre...
nastojashaja rybalka ili nazionalnaja rybalka ?
filmy nedavno smotrel...:lol: ohota, rybalka, (E)banja..

ну возможны варианты =)
Хотя я не пью почти , я больше природу люблю чем водку , хехе

CodeDaemon

Xdream писал(а): moi russki ne samyi perfektnyi poetomu isvinite vse oshibki i padeshi ... ja ih tak i ne vyu4il... a skolko let u4il i u4il...

Your russian is pretty good.
Just try to write by cyrillic, and it's will be perfect.

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 13:30

Ep писал(а):
Xdream писал(а): my first defender was able to work with sunflowers oil too, it
had the one tank system and i had 190 horse powers after chip tuning , airfilter and turbo settings and the possibility to work not only with diesel/soljarka. Rudolf Diesel made his developings on the diesel engine with sunflowersoil somewhere in the year 1890-1900
well the russian car will be my next tunning step and a complitely new challenge
hola.
Es wird sehr interessant fuer mich mit Ihrer Meinung ueber Uaz-Patriot nach dem LR Defender kennen zu lernen :)
Dieselmotor ist wirklich einen Sparmotor, aber es wird mehr einfach mit Ersatzteile fuer ZMZ409-motor in kleinen Orten zu treffen. In Russland das heisst viel...

hola, quel tal ?

Ich werde liebend gern berichten...
meine neugier hat auch keine Grenzen.

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 13:33

CodeDaemon писал(а):
Xdream писал(а): moi russki ne samyi perfektnyi poetomu isvinite vse oshibki i padeshi ... ja ih tak i ne vyu4il... a skolko let u4il i u4il...
Your russian is pretty good.
Just try to write by cyrillic, and it's will be perfect.

do not have cirily latters on my notebook , sorry
but when I am in russia I will write in cyrilic, I promise!

Ep · Сообщение Ep » Чт июл 30, 2009 13:52

Xdream писал(а):
hola, quel tal ?

Ich werde liebend gern berichten...
meine neugier hat auch keine Grenzen.

Mir geht's gut, danke.

Ja, UAZ-Patriot ist sehr neugierig Auto :) Es war erdacht spezial fuer neugierig Menschen :)

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 14:31

Fred, our discuss should be done in russian because people do not understand us ... do you speak this language ?

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 15:04

Ostrov писал(а):
Xdream писал(а):Ostrov, spassibo, budu pissat, eto budet gdeto wvsentjabre...
nastojashaja rybalka ili nazionalnaja rybalka ?
filmy nedavno smotrel...:lol: ohota, rybalka, (E)banja..
ну возможны варианты =)
Хотя я не пью почти , я больше природу люблю чем водку , хехе

dogoworilis, my budem rybu lowit a ja na4al bespokoitja ... pe4en i tak dalee

:D

Ty is St Pete ?

Ostrov · Сообщение **Ostrov** » Чт июл 30, 2009 15:39

да, из СПб
ну супер, как переедешь - не забывай , пиши
поедем поймаем пару - тройку акул :)
ну и природу посмотришь, есть что посмотреть

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 15:56

da, objasatelno budu pissat ...
sentjabr -oktjabr akuly beregites!

Ostrov · Сообщение **Ostrov** » Чт июл 30, 2009 16:00

Xdream писал(а):da, objasatelno budu pissat ...
sentjabr -oktjabr akuly beregites!

=) хехе
я им тоже не завидую , бедолагам
но мы их честно предупредим заранее :lol:
ревом УАЗовского мотора :D

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 16:15

da, normalnyie akuly uslyshut tvoego motora a gluhie uslushut UAZ TDI

no k soshalenieju u menja netu oborudavanie dlja rybalki ...
moshno dynamit brat s soboi ?

Ostrov · Сообщение **Ostrov** » Чт июл 30, 2009 16:22

Xdream писал(а):da, normalnyie akuly uslyshut tvoego motora a gluhie uslushut UAZ TDI
no k soshalenieju u menja netu oborudavanie dlja rybalki ...
moshno dynamit brat s soboi ?

динамит лучше оставить дома , гыгы
вернее там где он есть сейчас :)
а удочки всегда найдем, решетка гриль есть , фотоаппарат и gps тоже не проблема
Так что все получится без динамита :D

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 16:31

ok, soglasen ... my edem na rybalku ....

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 16:31

Ostrov, skolko let u tebja ?

Ostrov · Сообщение **Ostrov** » Чт июл 30, 2009 16:35

Xdream писал(а):Ostrov, skolko let u tebja ?

мне 34
машине 1 год
удочкам около года
фотику и ноутбуку больше года- но работают =)
Акулам наверно 3-5 лет =)

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 16:44

aga... mne budut 33 w dekabre ...otme4aem kak nado !
mashine ...menshe 4em god
nadejus mne dadut uaz 2009 goda
moi notebook is 2007, fotiku netu

akuly ... nu ladno dolgo shili, byli , ne tushili

Ostrov · Сообщение **Ostrov** » Чт июл 30, 2009 16:51

Xdream писал(а): nadejus mne dadut uaz 2009 goda

ну да, конечно
Дизели все 2009 , 2008 все продали уже

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 16:54

:incredable:

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 17:03

est kakie noibud isvstnye problemy s TDI ???

u menja s landroverom vsegda byli filtrenyie problemy ... filter masla, filter vosduha i eshos diselovoi pump...
no u ego byli 180 000 tkm i 6 let kogda ja ego polu4il...

s defenderom ne byli nikakie problemy originalnogo proishoda ... vse problemy byli is sa menja ... ja ego peredelal mnogo a ne wse bylo recommended .

s poslednego defendera ja do sih por ne imeju nakakie problemy ... tolko odnashdy byl nemnoshko pijannyi i ne uvidel odin hydrant kotoriy slomal wsju moju pravuju storonu ...ja proehal i ne ustanovilssja , sametil vse utrom ... dumaju skorost byla 60-70 km / h ....
remont okasalsja o4en dorogoi ...rovno 8 000 ? (pomenjali wse i novii lak i eshe melo4i)
eto mne tak bolelo w serdze , da i esho bolit.

Партизанский

Главная проблема с дизелем в России - найти правильную автозаправочную станцию, с хорошим топливом.
По эксплуатации дизелей - машин с F-1А не так пока много среди Патриотов, почитай ветку:

http://www.uazpatriot.ru/forum/patriot- ... ight=iveco

Там много всякого пишут.

Xdream · Сообщение **Xdream** » Чт июл 30, 2009 17:28

spassibo partizanskii ...

soljarka wsegda moshno s bensinom "modifizirovat" / meshat esli ona D2 ili D4 - soljarka dlja grusoviki ili traktory...
D1 ili eurodiesel eto samaja 4istaja soljarka ... est toshe simnaja i letnaja i tak dalee...
pomogite poshaluista, ja ne snaju kak eto na russki Heizöl (malso dlja otoplenija) moshno toshe polsuvat...u heizöl tolko okraska nemogo krasnovataja i on bolshe dimit...
samyi ludshii variant dlja menja eto byl moi starii defender kotorii esdil i rabotal na wse...soljarka, heizöl, maslo/olio, saladoil, etc,...
kogda ja ehal na mashinu wokrug pahlo kak v restorane ...pahnet kartoshakam ili pommes frites
i ja 4asto byl skashem v BILLA ili Carrefour potomu sto nashel правильную автозаправочную станцию

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